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POSTSCRIPT TO C/2004K3 DISCOVERY
There
is an on-line forum called the Minor Planet Mailing List, which is used
by professionals and non-professionals in the astronomy world to
communicate on matters relating to asteroids, comets, lost satellites,
and similar topics. Following announcement of the C/2004K3 discovery,
the following message was posted (by an individual whose identity will
not be listed here):
I am rather wondering why
semi-accurate astrometry
is included in the MPEC?!
CK04K030 C2004 06 01.43149 20 22 00.5 +48 03 57
EL004G70
CK04K030 C2004 06 01.44541 20 21 54.6 +48 06 38
EL004G70
CK04K030 C2004 06 01.45935 20 21 48.8 +48 09 20
EL004G70
If this is really CCD-astrometry, as indicated by the "C", I see
no point in reporting semi-accurate positions at all. CCD+software
can do better!
(Signed, but name not listed here)
This
individual was critical of the fact that 3 of the 4 observations
reported by Francisquito (observatory code G70) showed one decimal point
less precision that the rest of the observations used in this particular
discovery. I had intentionally reported one less decimal point of
precision for the three “manual” coordinate picks described earlier in
the article “Anatomy of a Comet Discovery”.
Before
I had a chance to respond, Dr. Timothy Spahr of SAO posted the following
message:
We used the
semi-accurate stuff because the observer
gave us a rather lengthy explanation of the situation.
This is after all a pretty dense star background. In
addition, this observer's "semi-accurate" stuff is
better than a whole lot of "accurate" stuff we get
daily :-)
--Tim (SAO/MPC)
I posted a
lengthier response a little later:
(addressed directly to individual, but name not
listed here):
Thanks for taking enough interest to scrutinize
these data. I think there is an interesting lesson to be
learned here. As NEOCP object AO19841 (as it was known then)
began to linger for a few days on the Confirmation Page, I was
concerned that the rapidly brightening (and approaching) Moon
combined with the object's track across a fairly dense region of
the Milky Way, was going to prevent sufficient observations for
the MPC to nail down a good orbit solution before all was lost
to Moon glare. I had obtained a single measurement on
2004.05.31 (also published in MPEC 2004-L04) as the object
passed a narrow gap between background stars; this measurement
was made with the assistance of the astrometry software's
"snap-to-centroid" capability, and so was recorded at the full
precision offered by the software: 1/100 HA-second in RA, and
1/10 arc-sec for DEC. On 2004.06.01 I had three images of the
object, but because it was passing very close to a group of
field stars, the astrometry software's "snap-to" functionality
couldn't cope with the narrow gap between the object and field
stars, and wanted to snap to the field stars instead. I could
get a manual readout of the object's position because the CCD
images had already been solved, but I also knew that I was going
to be "eyeballing" a centroid based on a pixel/sky scale of 2.0
arc-sec/pixel. I did my best to visually select the brightness
centroid for each image, carefully recorded the position from
the software's info. window, and then intentionally dropped one
decimal place of precision for both RA and DEC. Of course, no
photometry was obtained. What I'm saying here is that I didn't
want to report any more precision than I felt could be justified
by the means used to obtain the data.
Again, being concerned about a possible shortage
of time and data, I placed all of these measurements in an
e-mail message sent directly to Tim Spahr at the MPC, along with
an explanation of my procedures and rationale. I heard back
from Tim shortly thereafter and he informed me that the entire
group of measurements formed a good data set. He also explained
that selecting an object's centroid manually is sometimes the
only feasible way to get a measurement. One then has to trust
the specialists who evaluate these data to determine what is
acceptable and useful, and what is not.
Best regards.
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Dick Jones - Francisquito Observatory (I.A.U. Code G70)
Valencia, CA
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